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Need help with wiring - John Deere 655
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Chuck Jurgens
2005-08-02 00:26:29 UTC
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I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and alternators.
He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
couldn't fix it.

I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
from the ignition switch to the solenoid.

The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
drain the battery.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
connects?

Thanks.

Chuck
Brynk
2005-08-02 11:23:00 UTC
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Post by Chuck Jurgens
I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and
alternators.
He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
couldn't fix it.
I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
drain the battery.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
connects?
Thanks.
Chuck
Duane Bozarth
2005-08-02 14:49:23 UTC
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Post by Chuck Jurgens
I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and alternators.
He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
couldn't fix it.
I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
drain the battery.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
connects?
It's the fuel supply solenoid...on the 955 (which actually now I look
the service manual covers the 655 thru 955) it connects on a side
terminal on the starter...as I recall, it's on the back side where it's
a real pita to get to when the starter is mounted so you may not be able
to see it easily.

I assume this is the white?

Also, I've never seen a JD dealer that wouldn't answer such a question
or supply a copy of the wiring diagram simply for the
asking--particularly if one uses them for parts, etc., on a at least a
reasonably regular basis--it's a reason to give them your business.
Chuck Jurgens
2005-08-02 17:42:54 UTC
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Thanks Duane. That's exactly where it goes!

Chuck
Post by Duane Bozarth
Post by Chuck Jurgens
I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and alternators.
He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
couldn't fix it.
I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
drain the battery.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
connects?
It's the fuel supply solenoid...on the 955 (which actually now I look
the service manual covers the 655 thru 955) it connects on a side
terminal on the starter...as I recall, it's on the back side where it's
a real pita to get to when the starter is mounted so you may not be able
to see it easily.
I assume this is the white?
Also, I've never seen a JD dealer that wouldn't answer such a question
or supply a copy of the wiring diagram simply for the
asking--particularly if one uses them for parts, etc., on a at least a
reasonably regular basis--it's a reason to give them your business.
Duane Bozarth
2005-08-02 18:01:40 UTC
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Post by Chuck Jurgens
Thanks Duane. That's exactly where it goes!
Chuck
Great...

The guys in the shop at JD <do> know who you are, though, right???? :)
Chuck Jurgens
2005-08-03 01:48:00 UTC
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No, they don't. This is my first John Deere. I bought it recently on eBay.
It had a bad starter and JD wanted $400 for a new one.
Post by Duane Bozarth
Post by Chuck Jurgens
Thanks Duane. That's exactly where it goes!
Chuck
Great...
The guys in the shop at JD <do> know who you are, though, right???? :)
Duane Bozarth
2005-08-03 13:57:08 UTC
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Chuck Jurgens wrote:
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Post by Chuck Jurgens
Post by Duane Bozarth
Post by Chuck Jurgens
Thanks Duane. That's exactly where it goes!
Chuck
Great...
The guys in the shop at JD <do> know who you are, though, right???? :)
No, they don't. This is my first John Deere. I bought it recently on eBay.
It had a bad starter and JD wanted $400 for a new one.
Well, you'll find in the long run it pays to make their acquaintance
imo...
Man on the mountain
2005-08-03 19:49:52 UTC
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Chuck,

Go to Google and type in John Deer and it will take you to their web site.
You can look up your tractor there and even the manual/s for tractors. They
also have a "help" site.
Post by Chuck Jurgens
I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and
alternators.
He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
couldn't fix it.
I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
drain the battery.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
connects?
Thanks.
Chuck
T fed
2020-08-30 20:00:04 UTC
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Need help 655 will not turn over battery is good but nothing goes o
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Dean Hoffman
2020-08-30 21:01:08 UTC
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Need help 655 will not turn over battery is good but nothing goes on
Just so you didn't miss the obvious.
How do you know the battery is good?
Are the battery terminals clean?
Did you try to jump start the engine?
Is there any sound like a click from the starter solenoid?
Is there some sort of lockout that keeps the engine from turning over
i.e. transmission have to be in neutral or park , clutch have be
depressed before engine will crank?
What about the mower if it has one? Does it have to be raised while
starting or is there some sort of lever to keep it from running?
Is there a separate lever that engages the PTO?
unknown
2020-08-30 21:11:27 UTC
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Need help 655 will not turn over battery is good but nothing goes on
    Just so you didn't miss the obvious.
How do you know the battery is good?
Are the battery terminals clean?
Did you try to jump start the engine?
Is there any sound like a click from the starter solenoid?
Is there some sort of lockout that keeps the engine from turning over
i.e.  transmission have to be in neutral or park , clutch have be
depressed before engine will crank?
 What about the mower if it has one?  Does it have to be raised while
starting or is there some sort of lever to keep it from running?
  Is there a separate lever that engages the PTO?
On our John Deere L111, to start engine, you have to be sitting in the
seat, blades lever in off position, and brake depressed.
Yukon
2020-09-05 00:00:50 UTC
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Post by Dean Hoffman
Need help 655 will not turn over battery is good but nothing goes on
Just so you didn't miss the obvious.
How do you know the battery is good?
Are the battery terminals clean?
Did you try to jump start the engine?
Is there any sound like a click from the starter solenoid?
Is there some sort of lockout that keeps the engine from turning over
i.e. transmission have to be in neutral or park , clutch have be
depressed before engine will crank?
What about the mower if it has one? Does it have to be raised while
starting or is there some sort of lever to keep it from running?
Is there a separate lever that engages the PTO?
dpb
2020-08-30 21:19:23 UTC
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Need help 655 will not turn over battery is good but nothing goes on
Best bet is it's bad ground -- 955 here turned out was bad replacement
cable connector that looked fine superficially but wasn't.

After that, the seat, PTO interlocks...

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micky
2020-08-31 04:23:25 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:00:04 +0000, T fed
Need help 655 will not turn over battery is good but nothing goes on
Get a voltmeter and follow the wires to the ignition key, every safety
switch, to the starter motor, and beyond. Then follow f rom the other
pole of the battery or from the ground.

Stop guessing what is wrong and figure it out properly.
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